Tuesday 25 October 2016

Trump, Hillary, USA - The Final Countdown

This has been one of the toughest astrological projects I've ever undertaken, for many reasons. I don't usually do politics or politicians, so I'm out of my comfort zone with all of this. Also, there were so many charts to study in order to find all the relevant information: Trump's natal chart, Hillary's natal chart, the USA natal chart, the Election Day chart, the Inauguration Day chart.  - and all their predictive charts including transits, progressions, etc, as well as comparing each of the charts with all of the others to see how they interact. An added problem was there's no accurate birth time for Hillary. However, here is my interpretation of who may the next President of the United States.

ELECTION DAY

On 8th November 2016 - transiting Mars will be in opposition to Donald Trump's Progressed Midheaven. This indicates frustrated goals, disruptive influences, and a struggle to get what he wants. There may also be setbacks through upsetting other people. There will be many arguments and accusations. Transiting Uranus will be in conjunction to his Solar Return Midheaven. This shows that there could be a sudden twist of fate for Mr Trump on Election Day. An unexpected event which will turn everything upside down. Having said that, the transiting Moon will be trine his natal Sun and also his natal North Node, both of which indicates popularity. 

Hillary Clinton has many astrological connections to the Election Day chart. On 8th November 2016 the transiting Sun will be in conjunction with her natal Venus and in a square aspect to her natal Pluto. This shows a positive outlook and optimistic attitude. As a result of this election, there will be a major change of direction in her life. Promotion to the highest office? Or retiring from politics? The Midheaven in the election Day chart will be conjunct Hillary's natal North Node. This shows an increase in status and events running smoothly in her professional life. There will also be beneficial relationships with superiors and authorities. This transit often coincides with a new professional position or promotion. 

ASTROLOGICAL CONNECTIONS TO THE USA

Using Synastry to analyse Donald Trump's connections to the USA, his natal Sun is conjunct the USA natal Mars. This indicates an action-packed and volatile relationship. There is a lot of anger bursting to get out with this planetary influence. Whatever happens on 8th November, there is likely to be a rather fiery response if he doesn't win - and a fiery response even if he does. This connection between the Sun and Mars brings impulsive decisions and a fiercely combative attitude.

Trump's natal Sun is in a square aspect to the USA Neptune. This planetary influence shows that, in some way, Donald Trump is causing America to feel confused about it's own identity. His famous slogan throughout this campaign, 'We'll Make America Great Again' is somehow implying that America is in a downward spiral and needs to be 'rescued' - by Trump, of course. Interestingly, in synastry, an aspect between the Sun and Neptune indicates a tendency towards a saviour-victim mentality. In other words, one side - Trump - is making the other side - USA - believe that it is weak and helpless. He is trying to convince the people that he is the one to save them. He wants to be an anti-establishment hero. 

With his natal Moon in an opposition aspect to Mars in the USA chart, Donald Trump has a tendency to over-react. This is bad enough right now but imagine if he was the President. An over-reaction then could trigger all kinds of problems. Together, DT and the USA would be irritable, intolerant, and short-tempered. This planetary combination indicates explosive conflicts - and not just with other nations. There is a strong indication that the citizens of the US will turn against Trump as the USA natal Mars is also in opposition to his Moon. There is a very real possibility that 'President Trump' could end up being 'at war' with his own nation.

Donald Trump has several strong connections from his natal Venus - conjunct Mercury, sextile Neptune, opposite Pluto, and conjunct the Vertex - to the USA chart. This shows his popularity. The people love and admire Mr Trump. because he symbolises everything that Americans aspire to be - successful, rich, and famous. These positive connections to the USA are the reason he is already mega-wealthy and living the American Dream. But will that qualify him to take on the nation's top job - President of the United States? 

However, most of Donald Trump's connections to the USA chart involve Mars, and one very important aspect is a conjunction from DT's natal North Node to the USA Mars. This indicates a fiery and fated relationship between himself and the population. This association will make a strong impact on both - whether as allies or enemies. It suggests that, together, Mr Trump and the USA could become involved in a dramatic showdown. Whatever happens, it is destined to change the course of their lives, in particular that of Mr Trump. But will this be for better or worse? Either way, Donald Trump has already whipped up a storm and divided the nation. 

While Trump has crossover aspects of the Moon opposite Mars and Mars opposite the Moon with the USA chart, Hillary Clinton, by comparison, also has a crossover to the USA chart. However, hers involves the Sun trine Venus, and Venus trine the Sun. There could not be more of a contrast. Trump's represents over-reaction and aggression. Hillary's represents peace and harmony - and it's also good for financial dealings. 

Trump's Mars connections to the USA are all negative - but Hillary Clinton's are positive and progressive. Her natal Mars is in a sextile aspect to the USA Saturn, and her natal Saturn is sextile the USA Mars - another crossover! Her Mars is also in a trine aspect to the USA Ascendant. These influences show a practical, organised and disciplined partnership between Hillary and the nation. Together, they will initiate decisive actions calculated to bring tangible results. Where Trump would bring conflict, Hillary would bring compromise. This would be a hard-working, dynamic leadership.

THE USA CHART

In the USA Solar Return chart for the year in which a new president is elected, the sign on the Ascendant tends to symbolise the background of the new president, or the type of person they are. For example, when President John F Kennedy took office, the sign on the USA Solar Return Ascendant was in Cancer. This sign represents close families - especially those whose cultural background is very strict or religious. This year [4th July 2016 - 4th July 2017], the Solar Return Ascendant is in Sagittarius - the sign which represents lawyers. Hillary Clinton is, by profession, a lawyer. 

In the Annual Degree Projection chart for the USA this year [4th July 2016 - 4th July 2017] every planet, asteroid, and point in the chart has rotated though 180 degrees. So, in effect, the whole chart is the opposite way round. Does this mean that the president will be the opposite of what America is used to - i.e. a woman? The Projected Moon is conjunct the fixed star Regulus - the Royal Star. Centuries ago, when all world leaders were descended from royalty, this star would symbolise kings. In modern times we are also ruled by presidents and prime ministers, so Regulus indicates all world leaders. With the Moon in conjunction to this star, does this suggest a female leader? Another intriguing clue is Projected Pluto conjunct the Vertex. Pluto rules Scorpio - Hillary's Sun sign.

These two candidates are both so close to winning the election, it's almost impossible to predict which one will become the next president. However, the chart information does tend to slightly favour one in particular, and since my fellow astrologers agree with this, I'm going to stick my neck out and say....... Hillary Clinton.

35 comments:

  1. Thank you Sue for taking the time to do the president candidates. I am sure it was time consuming but I agree with your prediction. Hillary's charts look very favorable for her to win the election. Thanks again!!

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    1. It's a shame there's no birth time for Hillary, but her charts do look very optimistic.

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  2. Oh wow! This is brilliant Sue!

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  3. What you say about Trump's connections to the USA gives me the shivers. He's already made America a more hostile place, so God knows what might happen if he gets full control. I hope you're right about Hillary.

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    1. I hope I'm right about Hillary too, but even if Trump doesn't win, he's done such a lot of damage during this campaign, I think it will take a long time for everything to settle down.

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  4. Great article! As an American, the parts about Trump's relationship with the US definitely rings true.

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  5. This is such an interesting analysis! Especially love all the associations to women!

    I heard a talk by a Feng Shui master back in January that women (and concerning issues such as equal rights, feminism etc.) would be at the forefront, making a necessary breakthrough this year...she even went as far as to suggest Hillary's victory! What are your thoughts, Sue?

    Also, I'm curious, how do you make a general worldwide forecast? Like what chart would you have to interpret, if any?

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    1. Thank you.

      I don't know much about it, but Feng Shui is a fascinating subject. The Feng Shui master is absolutely right women making a breakthrough this year.

      There are two ways to make a general worldwide forecast - by calculating a chart for when the year officially begins (1st January at 00:00) or by tracking the planets as they transit through the signs. This year, Jupiter is is the sign of Libra which will bring a surge in gender equality. T

      However, the big planetary aspect during 2016 has been a square from Saturn to Neptune. Throughout history, when these two planets are in hard aspect to each other (conjunction, square, opposition) this influence has brought women to the fore. For example, here in the UK, Margaret Thatcher became the first female Prime Minister during a Saturn-Neptune square.

      This Saturn-Neptune aspect ends in mid-November, but by then, the new President will have been chosen, so good vibes for Hillary.

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    2. Sorry about the typing errors :-/

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  6. With all the hostility between the Trump supporters and the Clinton supporters, I think there will be trouble whoever wins. Do you think this could escalate to the point where an assassination attempt is made upon the president?

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    1. No. There is an astrological cycle during which assassination attempts on the President of the USA occur. This happens every 20 years when there is a Jupiter-Saturn conjunction taking place during the term of office. The next one will be due for whoever becomes president in the 2020 election.

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    2. This make me think Donald might win, as terrifying as that thought is

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  7. Sue, do you think Michelle Obama may run for president in the future?

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    1. I haven't had time to study her chart, but I will post a comment about this when I'm free.

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  8. At the risk of sounding like one of those crazy conspiracy theorist, I think Donald Trump was encouraged to run for president on the purpose of putting him against Hilary to ensure that she does win this election, I mean she's being sponsored by corporations she practically brought by the establishment and that's why people don't like and trust her so they need a lesser evil situation where people feel like they have no choice but to vote for her

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    1. You're not crazy - that thought has occurred to me too.

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    2. Well the plan backfired they've put a Joffery Bartheon in power an unsuitable and disastrous idiot

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  9. ..Sue, the absolute worst happened, like you said that there was a slim chance of bounceback. I am now terrified of Trump's antagonistic chart with US. I have a feeling USA is no longer going to be a superpower in about 5 years or so. I remember you mention it somewhere, probably this was the final push towards that? I don't know.

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    1. I'm still in shock right now.... But, yes, by 2021 the USA will no longer be the world's number 1 superpower. I think we now know why.

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  10. Sue, any insight? I'm disappointed, scared, and numb...

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    1. Me too. I'll get back to you tomorrow, ok.

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    2. There's so much to say I can't fit it all in a reply, but I've had hundreds of queries about this situation since yesterday, so I'll publish an update in the blog next week.

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  11. Is there anything in any charts (Trump's, Clinton's, the election's, USA's) to indicate some type of hacking, voting repression, or anything else that led to this? I'm extremely surprised that ALL of the major and accurate pollsters were wrong about this.

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    1. I'm extremely surprised too. There is something very odd about this election result. Every political expert got it wrong - that seems almost impossible. Trump claimed the election was rigged. Maybe it was - in HIS favour.

      I'm working on an update horoscope for Trump, etc. It should be in the blog next week.

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  12. Sue, I am extremely sorry for bothering you and I know how busy you are but I haven't been able to stop having panic attacks since last night and I am terrified with this result. As a gay young boy, I cannot believe how America has treated us. If you ever have some time, please consider doing a future forecast for this nation and Trump (and his VP Pence). All my love to you.

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    1. Please don't apologise. I can't even begin to imagine how shocking this election result has been for all the decent people across the USA. Trump has dredged up hate throughout his campaign. He is completely vile and so are the people who voted for him.

      I'm working on an update forecast for the USA right now which should be in the blog next week. Lots of love xx

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  13. what are your thoughts on the new world order theory and the Rothschild family?

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    1. It's a few years since I read about that particular subject. Can I get back to you on this?

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    2. Yeah of course. I was just curious cause I recently started to read up on this and given the recent events tit does seem somewhat plausible

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  14. Do u think Britain will be the next super power?

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    1. I haven't studied the UK chart in depth recently, but I doubt that Britain will replace the USA. It could possibly be China.

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